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From: [e-mail] (John C. Lund)
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Subject: winsock remote control

Is there a such thing as a Winsock compatible program to remotely control
another PC?

Thanks,
John Lund
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Lee)
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Subject: Re: SMTP mail client help

In article <2qm59r$[e-mail]> (Marcus Johns) writes:

>Is it?  I can't even get it to start.  It freezes at the mail path> prompt.
>
>Could somebody post something that might help me install it properly?
>
>I'd say email me, but you can't..not until SMTP..works.

Even if you get your SMTP daemon up and running, people might still have
problems mailing to you unless you are connected for at least a few hours
continuously each day. Depending on how often a site tries to send queued
mail, they may miss you all together. And if you decide to not be on for a
couple of days, the mail will bounce (this site for example bounces mail in
the queue after 2 days).

Providers of dial-up IP should really handle your e-mail unless they expect
you to be connected 24-hours a day ...

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From: [e-mail] (na8520d00-Nichols)
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Subject: Re: 32 bit access with SCSI no available. Hunh? was Re: Win Mosaic alpha 4 (my fix)

In article <[e-mail]>,
David Arnstein <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>na8520d00-Nichols <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>>Windows 3.1 users:
>>>
>>>    ***   J U S T    S A Y    N O    T O    S C S I   ***
>>
>>Windows can run just fine on SCSI system, and the presence or absence
>>of 32-bit access has little effect on the performance.  I run Windows
>>on a SCSI system with no performance problems whatsoever.
>
>Put your money where your mouth is.  Find yourself a peecee with your
>favorite SCSI host adapter and disk drive, and an IDE drive of recent
>vintage.  Run WinBench 4.0 to obtain disk timings on each drive.  I
>did.  That's how I came to my conclusion:  just say no to SCSI!  I've
>corresponded with plenty of folks who say "I'm using SCSI and it
>works just fine, thank you."  But if your expensive SCSI hardware
>doesn't decisively outperform an IDE disk, you've wasted your time
>and money.

Actually, I did put my money on the line when I bought this machine.  I
don't deny that SCSI is a waste of money and performance if all you are
using it for is disk drives in a DOS/Windows environment.  I don't
expect it to outperform an IDE interface in that environment.  Quite
the reverse -- IDE has far lower command overhead than SCSI, and a
busmastering SCSI adapter (which I have) has the most overhead of all.

However, my SCSI adapter is controlling two disk drives (with a third
drive, 2.8GB, about to be added), a QIC-150 tape drive, and a CD-ROM
drive, plus the occasional borrowed peripheral that I attach to the
external SCSI connector.  Getting all of this to work together in an
IDE system would be quite a challenge.  Also, the system was configured
to run Linux efficiently (hence the busmastering SCSI adapter).

>I have a Future Domain SCSI host adapter.  It does not do
>busmastering, it uses programmed I/O (PIO).  Therefore, I don't need
>double buffering.  I don't use it.

That's definitely true.  In a DOS/Windows environment, a good PIO SCSI
adapter will run rings around a busmastering controller anyway.

>  If your ASPI driver is a DOS TSR,
>it must still run in real mode, so you're still paying the (large)
>performance penalty for switching between protected mode and real
>mode.

Actually, I believe that the huge performance penalty for that mode
switch was only on a '286.  The '286 had no instruction for switching
back into real mode and had to be reset in order to accomplish the
change.  In newer processors, the changeover is much less painful,
particularly when considered relative to the other overhead of a disk
I/O operation.

>  By the way, busmastering SCSI host adapters cause problems
>when used with floppy port tape drives (QIC 40 and QIC 80 standard).

Yes, but I wouldn't have set up a SCSI-based system had I intended to
use a floppy-port tape drive.

>Maybe I should ditch my Future Domain h.a. in favor of Adaptec,
>apparently that's what you're using.  But Adaptec is expensive, and
>the magazine reviews I've seen indicate that the Future Domain 1680
>(my h.a.) is a speedy product.

Actually, I have a Buslogic BT747S (EISA).  For a DOS/Windows
environment, the fastest SCSI adapter I've seen is a DTC-3280, a PIO
adapter with an ISA bus interface.  It's totally useless under Linux,
though, since Data Technology Corp. considers their programming
interface proprietary.  So, here it sits in its packing box.

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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Kolar)
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Subject: Re: cannot post problem with winTrump 1.0B (but 1.0A works)

In article <2r017i$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christopher
Kolar) writes:

>I was using the winTrumpet newsreader (1.0 Rev B) with no problems, but in the
>  last 24 hours I have been unable to post.  When I connect to the nntp
>  server I receive the message "Posting failed -- 441 cannot parse 'date'
>  header."

>Having read the earlier postings, I checked the date and time of my
>  system (they are both synced with my server when I start up, so I
>  figured that this would not be a problem).  I have been able to send
>  mail with with trumpet news -- the date header on mail sent to myself
>  is accureate and the headers look correct.

I hate responding to my own posting, but I took 1.0 A back out and I am able
to post -- no parsing of the date header error.  Anyone with any inside
knowledge about the program know why this is happening?  I'd really rather be
using B.

Thanks,

--chris


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Subject: unix gzip and windows

Ok, now that we all can connect our windows pc to unix ftp sites,
does anyone know of a unix-type gzip compression utility for
windows.  Or is there a way my Winzip can decompress the
.gz extension files I have downloaded?

thx,
rob
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Subject: [win] a better mousetrap...er...newsreader

Hello again...

QVT/Net's newsreader is okay, and I kinda like it.  But the major problem with
it is that it does not thread articles for you.  (It will at least maintain a
killfile, though.)  So is there anywhere where I can get a threaded newsreader
a la trn for Windows 3.1 running Trumpet Winsock?  Or at least a better
newsreader?

                        Tony
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Callies)
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Subject: Re: Is there Winsock procedure declarations for Visual Baisc?

In article <2qpjjl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lin Wei-Ting) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Lin Wei-Ting)
>Subject: Is there Winsock procedure declarations for Visual Baisc?
>Date: 11 May 1994 03:32:05 GMT

Yes, there is.  Check the ftp sight SunSite.UNC.EDU.  Sorry, I can't remember
the directory.

-Peter Callies
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Subject: Re: Trumpet News Reader error "211 14..."?

In article <2r14b5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Craig R. Nelson) writes:
>211 n f l s

>where

>n = estimated number of articles on file
>f = first article number
>l = last article number
>s = name of the group

>I would like to see this reproduced with some consistency. Our company is
>in the process of implementing an nntp news client for Windows and would
>be interested in what is causing the error. The response line is, for all
>intents and purposes, valid.

In the case of the problems I had, I don't think it was valid. I could always
open one newsgroup with no problems, the error always occured when i tried to
open the next newsgroup no matter what newsgroup it was and if I would exit
from everything and reconnect I could go immediately to the newsgroup that had
caused my system to bomb and open it with no problem but if I tried to open a
second one it would cause the error message and a bomb. Thank goodness this
beta doesn't have that problem.
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Date: Fri, 13 May 94 00:21:56 PDT
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Subject: Re: Need a Windows PPP (not slip) connector for Winsock
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The Chameleon Sampler included in the back of many Internet books DOES NOT self-destruct.

Peggy :)

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>In <2q6tjd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (RayRizzuto) writes:
>
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>[e-mail] (Ted Wright) writes:
>
>>>Chameleon has a demo version that you can get for free that will work for
>>>a few months. I hear the book "The Windows Internet Tour Guide" includes
>>>a SLIP & PPP version of Chameleon for about $25. The Daytona beta of
>>>NT (if you run that) should be out any RSN and supposedly includes PPP.
>>>I have also heard that PPP will be built into Windows 4.
>
>>I was thinking of picking up the Windows Internet Tour Guide, or one of the
>>other 2 books (can't remember their names) which come with the demo Chameleon
>>package.  I saw no mention in the book that the demo version self-destructs in
>>a few months.  I assumed they just tried to entice you to the full package with
>>more features.
>
>>Can you give more particulars on the self-destruct, i.e exact time, what
>>happens, and what option(s) exist to get a working version at that time?
>
>Don't know about the 4.0 demo... I have dl'd it, but I can't use it
>yet (explaination in a bit).  The Chameleon 3.11N that ships with the
>Windows Internet Tour Guide Book that you mentioned looks really neat.
>Unfortunately, it does not support any form of authentication.  My
>school is pretty tight about security, so they are not going to allow
>PPP connections without authentication and they are specifically
>pushing PAP.  The new chameleon 4.0X supports CHAP, so I'm hoping I
>can use that.  Anyway, the point of this is that you had better check
>with your provider and make sure that they aren't requiring
>authentication if you plan on using Chameleon.
>
>Chris
>
>PS... anyone have any stats on how common authentication usage is?
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